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On 6 May 6060, 11:30 by Marcos Marado
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr…
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/x2…
The package is coming back.
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On 22 May 22220, 6:01 by SirCommy
There’s nothing to wait, the answer is obvious for France. It’s upon EU
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On 19 May 19190, 9:28 by JBK
@Metalhead: Well, in France too, they are forbidden. The new president is pro-patents but said he will follow European Union discussions. So, let’s wait and see.
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On 18 May 18180, 6:13 by MetalheadGautham
hey JBK, I think the only reason we see x264 removed is because it is patented in the US. where I am software patents have been rejected in the parliment… how is it in France? how is the new president???
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On 12 May 12120, 10:14 by James
For anyone interested in researching the patents involved, see http://www.FreePatentsOnline.com.
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On 27 May 27270, 11:37 by miksuh
As I said earlier you can always use debian-multimedia.org repository. Many, if not most, Debian desktop users use that repository anyway. You could say that debian-multimedia.org is THE unofficially official multimedia repository for the Debian.
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On 27 May 27270, 1:31 by JBK
@miksuh:
I don’t think you really get my point. Everything in the multimedia field is patented with stupid patents in the U.S.
I we start like that, we can remove everything from debian and so on.
I am quite sure there is a patent on streaming.
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On 26 May 26260, 9:42 by miksuh
“Well, you are right, but it is worse… GStreamer is architectured to be able to put external codecs… and proprietary ones…”
So what? Those are external codecs so it’s not gstreamer problem. It’s not a problem at all if you don’t distribute codecs which have patent problems.
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On 26 May 26260, 9:23 by miksuh
I don’t really understand why this is so big problem for you. I’m sure x264 will be available in the debian-multimedia.org if it is not available in official repository.
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On 26 May 26260, 2:25 by markit
Completely agree. You can’t have nothing more than “hello world” that is patent-free. Btw, also “ping” is patented if you use to see if a pc is still alive.
“non patented codecs” is almost useless, since one needs codecs to see multimedia content “as provided”. Having a ogg codec to see the last DVD I bought is useless.
Only 2 actions to take:
a) fight software patents and lobby to make them illegal in the unfortunate country where are accepted
b) act like they don’t exist at all when coding/packaging.
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On 25 May 25250, 11:07 by JBK
Well, you are right, but it is worse… GStreamer is architectured to be able to put external codecs… and proprietary ones…
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On 25 May 25250, 6:50 by Bilboed
In fact… you can remove totem, gstreamer and any gstreamer-based application from that list. GStreamer was designed so that these kind of patent issues don’t forbid applications from using the other, non-patented, codecs.
